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46397. Carl Berry                Re: MUI
46398. Neil Bothwick             Re: alt.binaries?
46399. Andy Kinsella             Re: A crappy announcement to have to make
46400. Peter Gordon              Re: alt.binaries?
46401. Ian                       Vidi 12
46402. Eddie Maddock             Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre
46403. Eddie Maddock             Spending frenzy prize draw
46404. Mark Wilson               Re: PIRACY-SUCKS
46405. Gerald Mellor             Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
46406. Gerald Mellor             Re: Internet costs
46407. Gerald Mellor             Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Wa
46408. Gerald Mellor             Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46409. Gerald Mellor             Re: MUI
46410. Robert Johnston           Re: TCP by Serial
46411. Robert Johnston           Re: TCP via Serial
46412. Robert Johnston           Re: G3/G4 cards
46413. Robert Johnston           Re: Advertising the Amiga.
46414. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46415. Robert Johnston           Re: MUI
46416. Paul Laycock              Flickerfixer fun
46417. Paul Laycock              Screenmode problems
46418. Robert Johnston           Re: Flickerfixer fun
46419. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46420. Ben Vost                  Re: alt.binaries?
46421. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46422. Ben Vost                  Re: iSpell probs
46423. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: MUI
46424. Ben Vost                  Re: AFCD50
46425. Ben Vost                  Re: PIRACY-SUCKS
46426. Ben Vost                  Re: Centuries
46427. Robert Johnston           Re: MUI
46428. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Centuries
46429. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: MUI
46430. Robert Johnston           Re: Centuries
46431. Richard Drummond          Re: MUI
46432. Robert Johnston           Corporate Signatures...
46433. Ben Vost                  Re: Centuries
46434. Ben Vost                  Re: Corporate Signatures...
46435. Ben Vost                  phase 5 lives!
46436. [e-mail]    Re: phase 5 lives!
46437. Robert Johnston           Re: Corporate Signatures...
46438. Ben Vost                  Re: phase 5 lives!
46439. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Centuries
46440. Robert Johnston           Re: phase 5 lives!
46441. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46442. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46443. Ben Vost                  Re: phase 5 lives!
46444. Robert Johnston           Re: phase 5 lives!
46445. Ben Vost                  Re: phase 5 lives!
46446. Paul Laycock              Re: Flickerfixer fun
46447. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46448. Paul Laycock              Re: phase 5 lives!
46449. Robert Johnston           Re: Flickerfixer fun
46450. Robert Johnston           Re: phase 5 lives!
46451. Neil Bothwick             Re: Zippity do da, Zippity Day
46452. Neil Bothwick             Re: Phase5
46453. Neil Bothwick             Re: alt.binaries?
46454. Neil Bothwick             Re: MUI
46455. Neil Bothwick             Re: THOR in my side....
46456. Neil Bothwick             Re: Internet costs
46457. D Race                    Phase5 Pre-orders
46458. Ben Vost                  Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46459. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46460. Mark Bond                 Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46461. Ben Vost                  Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46462. Robert Johnston           Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46463. Ben Vost                  Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46464. Nick Lamburn              Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46465. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46466. Robert Johnston           Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46467. Samuel Byford             Re: Internet costs
46468. Nick Lamburn              Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46469. Samuel Byford             Re: Screenmode problems
46470. Ben Vost                  Re: Screenmode problems
46471. Samuel Byford             Re: Screenmode problems
46472. Ben Vost                  Re: Screenmode problems
46473. Paul Laycock              Re: Screenmode problems
46474. Robert Johnston           Re: Screenmode problems
46475. Paul Laycock              Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46476. Samuel Byford             Re: Screenmode problems
46477. Neil Bothwick             Re: PIRACY-SUCKS
46478. Paul Laycock              Re: Screenmode problems
46479. Paul Laycock              Latest on BoXeR!!!
46480. Ben Vost                  Re: Latest on BoXeR!!!
46481. Paul Laycock              Re: Latest on BoXeR!!!
46482. Chris Green               Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46483. Rick Hodger               Re: DF1: as DF0:
46484. Rick Hodger               Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46485. Rick Hodger               Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46486. Rick Hodger               Re: YAM PPC patch is a fake!
46487. Rick Hodger               Re: Phase5
46488. Rick Hodger               Re: Death of Phase5 - can DCE continue?
46489. Rick Hodger               Re: PIRACY-SUCKS
46490. Pekka Sippola             Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46491. Mark Bond                 Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46492. Ben Vost                  Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46493. Peter Bell                Unexplained gurus
46494. Chris Green               Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46495. Ben Vost                  Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46496. Robert Johnston           Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
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From: "Carl Berry" <[e-mail]>
Date: 9 Feb 100 22:21:20 +0000
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Hi Mash,

>
> > Why would Stefan even consider working on it when there are people that
> > have been using 3.x for years without paying?
>
> Why would I consider paying when there wont be a new version? works both
> ways.
>

Yeah I'd like 3  A1200s and a A4000 delivered to my house please
ohhh and a Triumph TR7 whilst your at it (I mean no-ones making them
anymore are they ? so no new developments then).

You have a basic working version of the program, the author says "give
me some money if you want to keep using it"  theres your motivation.

Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone want from MUI
4 ?  I mean in my case I installed 3.8 (and registered it :) ) and
forgot about it, some of my software uses it, some of it doesn't and
to be honest I can't actually remember off-hand which is which.  I
generally consider the registration price to be part of the cost of
the software that uses it, the programmers knew exactly what the
situation with MUI was before they used it didn't they.

Carl.
Accy, Lancs. (haven't written it for a bit so...)


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Date: 9 Feb 2000 23:31:10 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Kevin Fairhurst said,

> On 9 Feb 2000 21:28:14 +0000, Neil Bothwick ([e-mail]) wrote:

>> HTTP: Helps Transfer The Porn
>> FTP:  Find The Porn
>> NNTP: Nude & Nasty Type Porn

> ROTFL ... is this going to appear in a future magazine article?

I don't have any articles planned for Future magazines :)


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
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Idaho - It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from there.



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From: Andy Kinsella <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:46:59 +0000
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Greetings  Matthew =


On 08-Feb-00, you wrote:

> On 08-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>>> Month in view: you say about not having enough to write about, but
>>> then you give V=B3 a 1 page review!!?

>> Yessss, that's the point surely?

> V=B3, thousands will use, but has a 1 page review
> PS4, hundereds will use, has a 4 page review

Maybe because there's only so much you can write about a web browser?

I've just finished reading the Voyager review; and it told me
everything i'd want to know about Voyager.

PageStream is easily worthy of 4 pages. More, even. It's effing
brilliant (it will be better in the finished version when the pdf
export works :)). The Documentation with the current (pre) release =

is for v3.3. v4 will have a nice new printed manual and stuff.



> Mash - =

Regards

Andy
-- =

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/PGP Key available on request/

Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is
time to reform.
-- Mark Twain



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From: Peter Gordon <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:43:02 +0000
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Hi,

>>> HTTP: Helps Transfer The Porn
>>> FTP:  Find The Porn
>>> NNTP: Nude & Nasty Type Porn

>> ROTFL ... is this going to appear in a future magazine article?

> I don't have any articles planned for Future magazines :)

I'd want royalties for the first two anyway :)


--
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so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
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WWW: World Wide Waste




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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:11:13 -0800
From: "Ian" <[e-mail]>
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Hi I was wondering if anyone new if there is a way of connecting a vidi
12 to a pc ie is it possible and what software would I need.Although I
use my a1200 I
find it dificult to trancfer files to the pc.any help appreciated or
even away of connecting my amiga to the pc serial or parallel ports.



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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 9 Feb 100 23:30:04 -0500
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Hi Paul,

> > > Isn't the empty Zip drive box I'm sending you reward enough ? Gosh, I
> > > don't know, some people...   ;)
>
> > Well that sounds like a really good pressy...  ;-)
>
> Well seeing as you chucked yours out when you got it, what could I do
> ;)

I sent it off earlier today (Wednesday) and decided it'd be a waste of
postage to just send the box on it's own, so I stuck an Amiga CD in
there as well. You'll have to wait to see what, but it's nowt special,
just something I've already got that turned up as part of a Weird
Science bundle last year  ;)

> And it's not a pressy as such - Eddie gets a reward, y'know.

Could it be ?... surely not ?.... am I finally getting my Mars bar ?
;)

Cheers,

Eddie (I've added a couple more prizes to my `spending frenzy' friday
draw as well. See seperate mail)


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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 100 00:38:41 -0500
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Hi all,

With two days officially left I figured I'd add a few more items to my
prize draw on Friday night. I came across the original Virtual Karting
in a box of discounted goodies I picked up a while back. It's hardly a
great game, but it's going into the draw as I already have it. Then
there's the platform game Ruffian. "Actually... a bloody good game"
said CU Amigas Matt Broughton on the packaging. Well, maybe a few
years back it was. At least it didn't seem bothered running on my
Blizzard 060 which is good. The funny thing is, I didn't even know I
had this game. When Epic sent me my analogue steering wheel they used
three Ruffian boxes to pad the box out. I thought they were empty
games boxes until I opened one of them a couple of weeks back !

So the prize draw that I'm doing this Friday night (after the pub)
will win someone the following :-

One Amiga mouse (with logo)
Camcontrol software (and manual)
One Star Wars Imperial Stormtrooper keyring (makes authentic sounds)
Virtual Karting
Ruffian

I think I've got the names of most people who said they'd bought / be
buying something this week. Anyone who's not spoken up, or is
worried they might have been missed out, then send me an email direct
stating just one thing you've bought during the spending frenzy and
from where, and I'll chuck your name in the hat (the BIG hat).

For everyone else who's totally bemused by the whole thing... don't
panic, it'll be over by the weekend (then I'll go back into lurk mode)

Cheers,

Eddie (right, let's see if there's anything else I can chuck out...
erm... ahem, I mean `give away'  ;))


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From: Mark Wilson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:34:53 +0000
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On 09-Feb-00, Daniel wrote this:

>> Voyager 3 is stable, if you have a gfx card, Poor old AGA users seem t=
o
>> loose out though, but I'm sure that Olli and everyone at vaporware do
>> their very best in the current market to make *good* products.

> V=B3 is very stable in AGA if you disable flash. Using FBlit helps as
> well, because V loves chip-ram.

Voyager uses no chip ram here, none at all, thank god for a gfx card

-- =

Mark 'tecno' Wilson  =


Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org
Email: [e-mail]



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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:00:30 +0000
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On 9 Feb 00, at 20:25, Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:

> As far as I can make out, MUI offers programmers an easier GUI development
> environment. In that case, doesn't that make it a developer tool? If so,
> surely the developers should pay for it, not the consumers.
>
> As you pointed out, "the programmer may not have to use [MUI]", but if they
> do, should they alone not have to bear the full cost of that decision?

Yeah I agree, but unfortunately that's not the way they chose to do it.
And I'm grateful for those programmers who did choose to use MUI,
imho it makes everything look so much nicer, and the configurability it
gives you over your applications is what AmigaOS should be about.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:31:27 +0000
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On 9 Feb 00, at 21:55, Ken Walsh wrote:

>> For 1 hour Monday-Friday 8:00-18:00 - =A32.40
>> For 1 hour Monday-Friday before 8:00 & after 18:00 - =A30.90
>
> I thought they had changed there rate to 1p now after 6pm M-F (min 5p)

Not according to their website. But maybe it just hasn't been updated.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:59:44 +0000
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On 9 Feb 00, at 6:52, Tim Seifert wrote:

> I just don't beleive in this speed of light limit nonsense (other than
> it be nearly impossible to find a harnessable energy source to acheive
> it).  If the speed of light is the limit, and anything travelling at the
> speed of light slows down.  Then light, itself, could not travel at the
> speed that it does.

I think the trouble here is that you have *some* knowledge of the
physics, and assume you have *all* the knowledge. Light can travel at
the speed it does, because photons are massless, so they aren't
subject to the same rules as you would be, for instance.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "anything travelling at the speed
of light slows down", though.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:59:59 +0000
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On 9 Feb 00, at 9:09, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> What you should have done is bought Power Computings A1200 HD drive
> instead.  This comes with a software utility that patches the OS and allows
> you to use HD disks fully - without the patch you cannot write to HD disks.

Or get one from Blittersoft, which doesn't require the software patch.
That's if they're still selling them, they don't display them on their
website and they don't advertise in AF anymore.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:00:09 +0000
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On 9 Feb 00, at 16:03, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>> Why would Stefan even consider working on it when there are people that
>> have been using 3.x for years without paying?
>
> Why would I consider paying when there wont be a new version? works both
> ways.

You don't know there won't be a new version. You don't know that your
registration fee wouldn't be the one to make him decide it's worth
developing the system further. As to why you would consider paying, if
you're using it, you should pay for it, same as any other software.

Bauglir


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:03:46 -0000
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> What I can't manage, is to get the PC to hold two DUNs at once (the
> second one will never connect, and sometimes cause the first
> to hang up
> too).  So I can't dial the net on the PC, link up the Amiga to the PC,
> and use both computers off the one MODEM.  It wants a network (LAN)
> adaptor installed to do that.

You need to install a SECOND dial-up Adapter (Add New Hardware -> Choose
from List -> Microsoft -> Dial-Up Adapter)
Then it'll work...

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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:43:59 -0000
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> > What you need to do is to set up a "Login Script" in Miami that says
> > something like "Send 'RING\nRING' Wait 'ATA' Send 'CONNECT 115200'".
> > Then set up "Dial-up Server" on the PC, and set it running on the
> > Null-modem.
> > THEN "Dial-in" using Miami on the Amiga, and voila! one
> working TCP/IP
> > connection!
>
> I could do with something like this, to connect to Quake on
> my dad's laptop.
> Unfortuantely, this was supplied by his company, and so I don't have a
> Win95 CD to set up the server with. Is there another way?

Well, Dial-up Server is part of '98, not '95... but I'm sure there are a
number of shareware alternatives. Try http://www.winfiles.com of
http://www.shareware.com

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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:47:59 -0000
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> > >> Yes that's a possiblity. However, if it's securely protected =
then
> > >> nothing but a specific updater will be able to edit it.
> >=20
> > >> <sarcasm>Yeah....it's not like secure software has even=20
> been hacked
> > >> before or anything...</sarcasm>
> >=20
> > > Then (as someone les has pointed out) ship the boars with=20
> a write protect
> > > jumper  :-=20
> >=20
> > Yeah, but I sent this before he said that...
>=20
> Not the sarcasm thing.  he replied to your original "ooh, someone =
will
> crack it and spread a virus" post.  But what if they used a 64 bit
> encryption key?  Given the amount of time RC5-64 is taking=20
> no-one would
> crack that until a new board was out to supercede it anyway!!

Why not go the whole hog... 3074-Bit PGP Encryption anyone?

> > > Actually, it's not just the programmers fault - if something goes
> > > wrong you blame the beta-test team   ;)
> >=20
> > heheh....end users won't usually accept that as an excuse tho :)
>=20
> It shouldn't get as far as the end users, but sometimes they=20
> get nominated
> to join teh beta test team without realising it ....

It's called prereleasing (v=B3 anyone?)

> > > Kev, who has got many programs right first time
> >=20
> > Yeah...okay :)
>=20
> It's true - I didn't have much choice as I was working on a lot of =
Y2k
> stuff in COBOL.  A hell of a lot of my seat-of -the-pants=20
> changes worked
> first time and still work.  Some didn't I admit.  Hell, a lot=20
> didn't.  The
> thing is, I made sure myself that it worked before shouting=20
> that I'd fixed
> it.  Gave me more time and a better understanding of the=20
> problem  *grin*

Sounds like how I used to fly my F-16 in the game of the same name on =
the
C=3D64... "What does 'Unable to land' mean? I'm on the runway..."

/me pulls 2 threads together...

--=20


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:57:30 -0000
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> I have had an idea of how the members of afb list can make an
> advert for the
> Amiga.
>
> My idea is that each of the 800+ members of the afb sends a picture of
> themselves to Ben. When he has everyones mugshot a picture or a symbol
> (something Amiga)  can be made out of all the seperate
> images,  something
> similar to the E.T. BT billboards that can be seen around the
> UK at the
> moment can be made and attached to the outside of the AF
> office building. I
> am sure Ben would like to spend his dinner hour in the car
> park positioning
> the photos so that he can go on the roof and see his
> masterpiece from a
> distance (and probably see a gust of wind destroy it).

Pictures of people on Red, White and Blue Backgrounds (a Boing ball against
a cloudy blue sky)?

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:00:59 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > What you should have done is bought Power Computings A1200 HD drive
> > instead.  This comes with a software utility that patches the OS
and allows
> > you to use HD disks fully - without the patch you cannot write to
HD disks.
>
> Or get one from Blittersoft, which doesn't require the software
patch.
> That's if they're still selling them, they don't display them on
their
> website and they don't advertise in AF anymore.

Just a slightly related spin on this; but the patch that power's HD
drives use is called in the startup-sequence; and Micronik's drives
require no patch.   This must mean that you cannot boot a 1.76Mb HD
Amiga floppy; which is not a problem for me; only if I wish to fire up
a game or something which is not often at all. :)  Unless of course
Power's patch makes it resident in one of the Amiga's boot vectors (is
that what it is? :) and the patch is resident until it's flushed from
memory?

Anyway - for me I don't need Amiga disk booting on 1760K disks. :)

One related question; the PC0 DOS Driver (and PC1, PC2....) is set up
for a DD PC disk; what do I need to change in the mountlist to get it
to recognise both PC 720K and 1440K?  I'm not sure if it's the tracks
or sectors that increases (/me suspects both); I know surfaces stays 2
doesn't it?  Or do I have to make a mountlist one for 720K and one for
1440K.

Also; The Power XL HD drive; if that's mounted via the Amiga's external
disk drive port; it's mounted as DF1:, yes?  Or is it another name?
Like umm, dunno really! :)  I'll have to get the drive in my tower
though, which was easy enough with my other DD external drive... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:02:54 -0000
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> Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone want from MUI
> 4 ?  I mean in my case I installed 3.8 (and registered it :) ) and
> forgot about it, some of my software uses it, some of it doesn't and
> to be honest I can't actually remember off-hand which is which.  I
> generally consider the registration price to be part of the cost of
> the software that uses it, the programmers knew exactly what the
> situation with MUI was before they used it didn't they.

o Speed
o Fastmem-Blitting
o Reduction in size
o Greater User Customisation
o And more...

--


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:15:55 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi ppl,

I recieved my new external Scanmagic scandoubler and flicker-fixer
yesterday, to be used with my new Belinea 17" monitor. However, I've
noticed some strange occurences. Before I go screaming to technical
support, I thought someone here might have a quick-fix solution.
It seems as though there is quite a lot of interference around my
house, as I get strange "waves" (sorry I can't be more descriptive)
running up the screen. To combat this, I have wrapped the scandoubler
in an anti-static bag to shield it a bit. Any ideas?

Thanks for any assistance,

Paul Laycock



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:16:21 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi ppl,

OS3.5 was going so nicely over the past couple of months that I thought
nothing would go wrong. But now, for no apparent reason, my Amiga hangs
when quit Screenmode. I haven't installed anything new, so what could
be the problem?
On a possibly similar note, QuakeWorldWOS (and QuakeWOS) won't open a
screen anymore thus failing to run. It used to work fine, when all of a
sudden, "unable to open AGA screen". Whats going on?!

Paul Laycock



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:18:30 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Laycock [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 10 February 2000 09:16
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Flickerfixer fun

> I recieved my new external Scanmagic scandoubler and flicker-fixer
> yesterday, to be used with my new Belinea 17" monitor. However, I've
> noticed some strange occurences. Before I go screaming to technical
> support, I thought someone here might have a quick-fix solution.
> It seems as though there is quite a lot of interference around my
> house, as I get strange "waves" (sorry I can't be more descriptive)
> running up the screen. To combat this, I have wrapped the scandoubler
> in an anti-static bag to shield it a bit. Any ideas?

A couple'a RF chokes on the Cabling..?

This should help/solve the Moir=E9 Fringe you're seeing.

--=20


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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:45:04 +0000
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On 10 Feb 100 00:38:41 -0500, Eddie Maddock ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi all,

> So the prize draw that I'm doing this Friday night (after the pub)

Oh God no ... is that a good thing or a bad thing, Eddie?    ;-)

> will win someone the following :-
>
> One Amiga mouse (with logo)
> Camcontrol software (and manual)
> One Star Wars Imperial Stormtrooper keyring (makes authentic sounds)

They sampled an authentic Imperial Stormtrooper??

> Virtual Karting
> Ruffian
>
> I think I've got the names of most people who said they'd bought / be
> buying something this week. Anyone who's not spoken up, or is
> worried they might have been missed out, then send me an email direct
> stating just one thing you've bought during the spending frenzy and
> from where, and I'll chuck your name in the hat (the BIG hat).

As well as the other stuff I ordered I'm now gonna order a couple more
things, but I guess I'm in the hat already, right?   ;-)

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:46:11 +0000
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Hi Neil,

> Only the ones that shouldn't be distributed freely. MP3 are the main
> user of usenet bandwidth, warez second and pron third.

And I suppose that people who steal other peoples' and re-post it illegally
to Usenet are actually pron crackers?

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:48:20 +0000
In-Reply-To: <87tuob$[e-mail]>
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:00:59 -0800, Nick Lamburn ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > What you should have done is bought Power Computings A1200 HD drive
> > > instead.  This comes with a software utility that patches the OS
> and allows
> > > you to use HD disks fully - without the patch you cannot write to
> HD disks.
> >
> > Or get one from Blittersoft, which doesn't require the software
> patch.
> > That's if they're still selling them, they don't display them on
> their
> > website and they don't advertise in AF anymore.
>
> Just a slightly related spin on this; but the patch that power's HD
> drives use is called in the startup-sequence; and Micronik's drives
> require no patch.   This must mean that you cannot boot a 1.76Mb HD
> Amiga floppy; which is not a problem for me; only if I wish to fire up
> a game or something which is not often at all. :)  Unless of course
> Power's patch makes it resident in one of the Amiga's boot vectors (is
> that what it is? :) and the patch is resident until it's flushed from
> memory?

The PowerC patch merely lets you write to disks - you can read (and boot
from) HD disks without the patch ...

> Anyway - for me I don't need Amiga disk booting on 1760K disks. :)
>
> One related question; the PC0 DOS Driver (and PC1, PC2....) is set up
> for a DD PC disk; what do I need to change in the mountlist to get it
> to recognise both PC 720K and 1440K?  I'm not sure if it's the tracks
> or sectors that increases (/me suspects both); I know surfaces stays 2
> doesn't it?  Or do I have to make a mountlist one for 720K and one for
> 1440K.

Nope. It's clever enough to recognise a HD disk when it sees one, and will
read this fine!  I found out that it also works fine as it is for 360k PC
disks when I had to get some data of an ex-girlfriends' mums very ancient
PC ...

> Also; The Power XL HD drive; if that's mounted via the Amiga's external
> disk drive port; it's mounted as DF1:, yes?  Or is it another name?
> Like umm, dunno really! :)  I'll have to get the drive in my tower
> though, which was easy enough with my other DD external drive... :)

An external drive is DF1, yes.  You can get an internal one though, if they
still have them ...

kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:49:34 +0000
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Hi Nyk,

>> I've got iSpell working in YAM now, but is there a kind soul that can
>> tell me how to create a user dictionary, or how to add words to user
>> dictionary, etc.?

> Can't remember how I installed it (in August 97...) but the user
> dictionary is ispell:lib/.ispell_english and it's one word per line
> sort of thing..

Yep, got that, but iSpell doesn't respond to it...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:49:49 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFBED@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:02:54 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone want from MUI
> > 4?
>
> o Speed
> o Fastmem-Blitting
> o Reduction in size
> o Greater User Customisation
> o And more...

Processor specific executables?  :-)

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:51:31 +0000
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Hi Jonathan,

> I can't say I've ever checked...

> You having a bad week there Ben?

> You seem slightly more caustic than usual.  :/

*Every* week is a bad week in AmigaMagazineLand these days... :(

All the best,
--
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:53:08 +0000
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Hi Daniel,

> V=B3 is very stable in AGA if you disable flash. Using FBlit helps as
> well, because V loves chip-ram.

*All* picture-intensive programs do.

All the best,
-- =

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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:55:52 +0000
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Hi Neil,

> No. it should be

> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.

Isn't there a slight problem with this when it comes to Christian calendar
dates though? After all, there never was a year zero in "our" calendar.

All the best,
--
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:54:20 -0000
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> > > Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone
> want from MUI
> > > 4?
> >
> > o Speed
> > o Fastmem-Blitting
> > o Reduction in size
> > o Greater User Customisation
> > o And more...
>
> Processor specific executables?  :-)

Of course! MUI-PPC anyone?

--


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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:03:33 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:55:52 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> > No. it should be
>
> > 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.
>
> Isn't there a slight problem with this when it comes to Christian calendar
> dates though? After all, there never was a year zero in "our" calendar.

And then there was Pope Gregory shifting things around left right and
centre, and all the Roman leaders vying for as many days in their own
months as possible, and all the missed leap year days ...

And you think you're calendar is still accurate enough to say when the
millennium happend?   ;-)

Kev

--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:03:59 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFBF0@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:54:20 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > > > Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone
> > want from MUI
> > > > 4?
> > >
> > > o Speed
> > > o Fastmem-Blitting
> > > o Reduction in size
> > > o Greater User Customisation
> > > o And more...
> >
> > Processor specific executables?  :-)
>
> Of course! MUI-PPC anyone?

Me please.  I'll pay to upgrade to it from my registered 3.8 version too!

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:08:20 -0000
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> > > No. it should be
> >
> > > 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.
> >
> > Isn't there a slight problem with this when it comes to
> Christian calendar
> > dates though? After all, there never was a year zero in
> "our" calendar.
>
> And then there was Pope Gregory shifting things around left right and
> centre, and all the Roman leaders vying for as many days in their own
> months as possible, and all the missed leap year days ...
>
> And you think you're calendar is still accurate enough to say when the
> millennium happend?   ;-)

Which is all besides the point anyway....

Jesus was Born in the Reign of King Herod...

... Whose Reign ended in 6BC

Ho hum...

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From: "Richard Drummond" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:07:11 +0000 (GMT)
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Hi Kev

On 10-Feb-00, you wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:02:54 -0000, Robert Johnston
> ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>> Actually, I'm just wondering here, but what does anyone want from MUI
>>> 4?

(SNIP)

> Processor specific executables?  :-)

This would make less difference than people imagine. The general purpose
integer instruction set does not differ much between the 68020 and 68060.
Most compilers produce nearly identical code when compiling (non-FPU code)
for either processor. I don't think any Amiga compiler is smart enough to
optimize properly for the 040/060.

Cheers,
Rich

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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:10:45 -0000
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If you think the (ex) Simply Signature was bad, have a look at this one...


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:15:21 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

> And then there was Pope Gregory shifting things around left right and
> centre, and all the Roman leaders vying for as many days in their own
> months as possible, and all the missed leap year days ...

> And you think you're calendar is still accurate enough to say when the
> millennium happend?   ;-)

Or even when Christ was born! After all, no-one thinks he was around in the
crossover between BC and AD...

All the best,
--
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:16:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFBF5@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

> If you think the (ex) Simply Signature was bad, have a look at this one...

(snip huge sig)

> As on every E-mail from T-Mi Plc!!!

yeah, but I bet they don't have the cheek to put v-cards on everything... :)

All the best,
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:18:36 +0000
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Hi,

This is from Czech Amiga News:

"Oberursel, 02/09/2000: On January 26., 2000 application for insolvency was
made about the property of phase 5 digital
production, and the application proceedings has been established by a decee
made by the competent county court at the same
day. During the regular application procedure there are negotiations about
assumption, and continuation of the Amiga
technology field with among others prospective buyers. By that, continuation
of the current development and products shall
be attained, espacially as for the new G4 acceleration boards.
Every customer who did product preordering from and product prepayment to
phase5 digital products will become informed
about their objective rights in writing, once the insolvency proceeding will
be established. "

All the best,
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:25:50 -0800
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[see previous thread]

I have no idea what any of that meant Ben, could you explain it for the
more stupid among us, such as me?




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:21:51 -0000
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> yeah, but I bet they don't have the cheek to put v-cards on
> everything... :)

Sorry about that. It only goes on "New" messages I send, and as soon as the
window went away, I said "D'oh!" coz I usually delete it before I send a
"New" message to AFB (NOT very often)

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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:29:24 +0000
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Hi [e-mail],

> I have no idea what any of that meant Ben, could you explain it for the
> more stupid among us, such as me?

Well it doesn't really mean anything. FWIW I've known about p5 for about
three weeks, and the major concern was what to do about folk who'd actually
stumped up the deposit and so on. While there may not be a G4 in the works,
people who did pay a deposit should get their money back... however, since
DCE paid for a licence to manufacturer some of the p5 products, they may
also pay a small sum to be able to finalise the G4 boards that p5 *was*
developing...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:38:18 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:15:21 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > And then there was Pope Gregory shifting things around left right and
> > centre, and all the Roman leaders vying for as many days in their own
> > months as possible, and all the missed leap year days ...
>
> > And you think you're calendar is still accurate enough to say when the
> > millennium happend?   ;-)
>
> Or even when Christ was born! After all, no-one thinks he was around in the
> crossover between BC and AD...

The latest theory is that if he was born, it'd be 7BC, cos that's when
there was a significant event in the night sky that could correlate to
something the wise men would have seen as happening over Bethlehem ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:39:43 -0000
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> "*I* manufacture those worktops", said Tom counterproductively.

I want these Taglines!! All of 'Em! It's the high point of my day, to see
what Ben's Tagline Generator's going to come out with next... :)

Once I got that, I need a Tagline selector for Outlook :P Yeuch!

--


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:08:30 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hello Kevin,

> > Just a slightly related spin on this; but the patch that power's HD
> > drives use is called in the startup-sequence; and Micronik's drives
> > require no patch.   This must mean that you cannot boot a 1.76Mb HD
> > Amiga floppy; which is not a problem for me; only if I wish to fire
up
> > a game or something which is not often at all. :)  Unless of course
> > Power's patch makes it resident in one of the Amiga's boot vectors
(is
> > that what it is? :) and the patch is resident until it's flushed
from
> > memory?
>
> The PowerC patch merely lets you write to disks - you can read (and
boot
> from) HD disks without the patch ...

Interesting.  Well that's good to know. :)  I suppose the patch has
something to do with the buffers on PowerC's drives; so that data is
written at the correct speed?

> > Anyway - for me I don't need Amiga disk booting on 1760K disks. :)
> >
> > One related question; the PC0 DOS Driver (and PC1, PC2....) is set
up
> > for a DD PC disk; what do I need to change in the mountlist to get
it
> > to recognise both PC 720K and 1440K?  I'm not sure if it's the
tracks
> > or sectors that increases (/me suspects both); I know surfaces
stays 2
> > doesn't it?  Or do I have to make a mountlist one for 720K and one
for
> > 1440K.
>
> Nope. It's clever enough to recognise a HD disk when it sees one, and
will
> read this fine!  I found out that it also works fine as it is for
360k PC
> disks when I had to get some data of an ex-girlfriends' mums very
ancient
> PC ...

Excellent! :)  In fact on an off-note; the A4K floppy drive I had
sometimes said when I put a disk in to try (before I knew it wouldn't
work) and format it as MS-DOS type; it stated a HD disk was 360K; a DD
5.25" floppy format! :-)

> > Also; The Power XL HD drive; if that's mounted via the Amiga's
external
> > disk drive port; it's mounted as DF1:, yes?  Or is it another name?
> > Like umm, dunno really! :)  I'll have to get the drive in my tower
> > though, which was easy enough with my other DD external drive... :)
>
> An external drive is DF1, yes.  You can get an internal one though,
if they
> still have them ...

Well I have done a deal with Tudor 'wheeling dealing' Davies, and I
will just stick my old DD Chinnon drive as Df0: and the HD drive as
Df1:.

All the best,

Nick.

> kev
>
> --
> Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM
>



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:16:35 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:08:30 -0800, Nick Lamburn ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello Kevin,

'lo

> > The PowerC patch merely lets you write to disks - you can read (and boot
> > from) HD disks without the patch ...
>
> Interesting.  Well that's good to know. :)  I suppose the patch has
> something to do with the buffers on PowerC's drives; so that data is
> written at the correct speed?

Urghh .... I dunno!   IIRC it just patches something in OS about writing to
HD disks ...

> > An external drive is DF1, yes.  You can get an internal one though, if they
> > still have them ...
>
> Well I have done a deal with Tudor 'wheeling dealing' Davies, and I
> will just stick my old DD Chinnon drive as Df0: and the HD drive as
> Df1:.

Actually, on an A4000, there is a jumper on the m/b which sets whether DF1:
is internal or external.  So if it's a normal A4000 drive you could have it
as DF1 internally, but if it's one that plugs into the floppy port like on
the back of an A1200 then it'll either be DF1: or DF2: depending upon the
jumper ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:21:13 +0000
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Hi Robert,

>> "*I* manufacture those worktops", said Tom counterproductively.

> I want these Taglines!! All of 'Em! It's the high point of my day, to see
> what Ben's Tagline Generator's going to come out with next... :)

> Once I got that, I need a Tagline selector for Outlook :P Yeuch!

Well, most of them are stolen, like most people's, but I try not to have any
Star Trek ones (since I don't like Star Trek), ones relating to American
politics (since I'm not American) or long ones. However, my newest batch,
shown below is a *bit* long, but pretty funny, I think.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*Capricorn*: /(Dec 22-Jan 19)/ Your shock upon learning where veal
comes from is nothing. Wait til you learn where babies come from.




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:24:33 -0000
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> >> "*I* manufacture those worktops", said Tom counterproductively.
>
> > I want these Taglines!! All of 'Em! It's the high point of
> my day, to see
> > what Ben's Tagline Generator's going to come out with next... :)
>
> > Once I got that, I need a Tagline selector for Outlook :P Yeuch!
>
> Well, most of them are stolen, like most people's, but I try
> not to have any
> Star Trek ones (since I don't like Star Trek), ones relating
> to American
> politics (since I'm not American) or long ones. However, my
> newest batch,
> shown below is a *bit* long, but pretty funny, I think.

I want I want I want!!!! :))

And anyone know of a Tagline selector plugin for Outlook '98 (ver
8.5.5104.6)

--


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:26:18 +0000
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Hi Robert,

> I want I want I want!!!! :))

Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)

> And anyone know of a Tagline selector plugin for Outlook '98 (ver
> 8.5.5104.6)

Not really the place for this kind of discussion, ne?

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
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       Sony unveils matt-black box of red and green lights




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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:28:24 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Robert,

> > I recieved my new external Scanmagic scandoubler and flicker-fixer
> > It seems as though there is quite a lot of interference around my
> > house, as I get strange "waves" (sorry I can't be more descriptive)
> > running up the screen. To combat this, I have wrapped the
scandoubler

> A couple'a RF chokes on the Cabling..?
>
> This should help/solve the Moir=E9 Fringe you're seeing.

Any idea where I could find such a device?

Thanks for your help,

Paul Laycock



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:31:31 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hello Kevin,

> > > The PowerC patch merely lets you write to disks - you can read
(and boot
> > > from) HD disks without the patch ...
> >
> > Interesting.  Well that's good to know. :)  I suppose the patch has
> > something to do with the buffers on PowerC's drives; so that data is
> > written at the correct speed?
>
> Urghh .... I dunno!   IIRC it just patches something in OS about
writing to
> HD disks ...

I know there was a bug in Kickstart 37.175 (2.04) regarding HD floppy
detection; but I don`t know; does anyone know what the patch does
regarding writing HD disks? :)

> > > An external drive is DF1, yes.  You can get an internal one
though, if they
> > > still have them ...
> >
> > Well I have done a deal with Tudor 'wheeling dealing' Davies, and I
> > will just stick my old DD Chinnon drive as Df0: and the HD drive as
> > Df1:.
>
> Actually, on an A4000, there is a jumper on the m/b which sets
whether DF1:
> is internal or external.  So if it's a normal A4000 drive you could
have it
> as DF1 internally, but if it's one that plugs into the floppy port
like on
> the back of an A1200 then it'll either be DF1: or DF2: depending upon
the
> jumper ...

Since the A1200 can't have Df1: on the internal floppy header I guess
running DF1: from the internal header is no go. :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:33:01 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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> > I want I want I want!!!! :))
>
> Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)
>
> > And anyone know of a Tagline selector plugin for Outlook '98 (ver
> > 8.5.5104.6)
>
> Not really the place for this kind of discussion, ne?

Kinda gone a bit OT, doncha think?

Paul Laycock



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:30:54 -0000
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> > > I recieved my new external Scanmagic scandoubler and =
flicker-fixer
> > > It seems as though there is quite a lot of interference around my
> > > house, as I get strange "waves" (sorry I can't be more=20
> descriptive)
> > > running up the screen. To combat this, I have wrapped the
> scandoubler
>=20
> > A couple'a RF chokes on the Cabling..?
> >=20
> > This should help/solve the Moir=E9 Fringe you're seeing.
>=20
> Any idea where I could find such a device?

Tandy/Maplin/CPC/Any major electrical/electronic parts retailer

--=20


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:33:51 -0000
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> > > I want I want I want!!!! :))
> >
> > Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)
> >
> > > And anyone know of a Tagline selector plugin for Outlook '98 (ver
> > > 8.5.5104.6)
> >
> > Not really the place for this kind of discussion, ne?
>
> Kinda gone a bit OT, doncha think?

/me goes off and starts AFB-Outlook immediately... :)

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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:50:52 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Tim Seifert said,

> I have inserted a RDB Zip disk, which mounts itself, removed it, and the
> next disk inserted, gets the same parameters (i.e. the next disk doesn't
> need a RDB).

But if the second disk does have an RDB (a different one) it will be
mounted as a different device, with a different name. If the names
clash, a number is appended to the second one.


Neil
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--
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:43:3 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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David McMinn said,

> Apparently their mail serves have been bouncing for 3 weeks and they
> ain't been replying to White Knight (neither would I though ;). So
> someone came up with the great idea that they've went bust, but they're
> actually just on holiday or something until they get the bits they need
> for the G4 cards.

That's not what http://www.amiga-news.de/archiv/0037.shtml says.

However, Ralph Schmidt has stated "The last Phase5's Amiga products are
and will be continued by DCE".

What happens to the G4 cards depends on how advanced the development was
and whether anyone wants to pick up on it.


Neil
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:45:34 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Peter Gordon said,

>>>> HTTP: Helps Transfer The Porn
>>>> FTP:  Find The Porn
>>>> NNTP: Nude & Nasty Type Porn

>>> ROTFL ... is this going to appear in a future magazine article?

>> I don't have any articles planned for Future magazines :)

> I'd want royalties for the first two anyway :)

Considering they've been in my tagfile for about five years, you'd have
a job proving ownership...

> WWW: World Wide Waste

Considering the subject, shouldn't that be:

World Wide Wan"%"% NO CARRIER


Neil
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:47:26 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Matthew O'Neill said,

> Hi Neil

>> Why would Stefan even consider working on it when there are people that
>> have been using 3.x for years without paying?

> Why would I consider paying when there wont be a new version? works both
> ways.

Because you use it. you pay for the version you use, not any potential
future release. Those are paid for if and when they are released and you
choose to use them.


Neil
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:51:32 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Sean Courtney said,

> Well, I was able to send e-mails successfully, but after looking at them
> carefully I noticed that Thor had 'em dated as "06-March-36" !!

Your using an old version, upgrade.


Neil
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--
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 9:53:10 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Gerald Mellor said,

>>> For 1 hour Monday-Friday 8:00-18:00 - 2.40
>>> For 1 hour Monday-Friday before 8:00 & after 18:00 - 0.90
>>
>> I thought they had changed there rate to 1p now after 6pm M-F (min 5p)

> Not according to their website. But maybe it just hasn't been updated.

With BT Together, you get 1p per minute evening calls. You lose
PremierLine but keep F&F/BF.

But the bastards won't make it available to Home Highway users.


Neil
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Someone who lies awake at night wondering if there really is a dog.



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:53:54 -0800
From: "D Race" <[e-mail]>
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Ben, do you think that someone who has pre-ordered a G4 & SCSI card
should sit tight or try and find a used PPC card for an A1200 pronto.
If, as I have, they've pre-ordered Fusion PPC, sourcing a PPC card is
quite important.

Cheers



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:55:12 +0000
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Hi D,

> Ben, do you think that someone who has pre-ordered a G4 & SCSI card
> should sit tight or try and find a used PPC card for an A1200 pronto.
> If, as I have, they've pre-ordered Fusion PPC, sourcing a PPC card is
> quite important.

I would hang fire for a while at least. FusionPPC still isn't quite ready
(problems with a bug in WarpUp according to Joe Fenton), so there's time to
see what will happen yet...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: ([phone]
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:56:42 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:55:12 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi D,
>
> > Ben, do you think that someone who has pre-ordered a G4 & SCSI card
> > should sit tight or try and find a used PPC card for an A1200 pronto.
> > If, as I have, they've pre-ordered Fusion PPC, sourcing a PPC card is
> > quite important.
>
> I would hang fire for a while at least. FusionPPC still isn't quite ready
> (problems with a bug in WarpUp according to Joe Fenton), so there's time to
> see what will happen yet...

Wait a minute, it's going to be using WOS?   So I have to install that to
use FusionPPC?  Why didn't they tell me this before?  ;-)

Kev

--
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:03:00 +0000
From: Mark Bond <[e-mail]>
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>
> I would hang fire for a while at least. FusionPPC still isn't quite ready
> (problems with a bug in WarpUp according to Joe Fenton), so there's time to
> see what will happen yet...
>

Hey Ben,

That statement has the ring of an NDA type of I know something you don't type
of thing...
I do hope somebody picks these up, because I was thinking of getting one and
the AmiJoe's were a bit under powered what with being G3 and only the
possibility of graphics/scsi.

Mark



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:02:57 +0000
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Hi Mark,

> That statement has the ring of an NDA type of I know something you don't
> type of thing...
> I do hope somebody picks these up, because I was thinking of getting one
> and the AmiJoe's were a bit under powered what with being G3 and only the
> possibility of graphics/scsi.

Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd* rather have an
020... :)

All the best,
--
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: ([phone]
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:05:22 -0000
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> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd*
> rather have an
> 020... :)

Give me a 6510 (Or a 6502) anyday. Assmebler's much cleaner for 'em... :)

--


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:07:24 +0000
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Hi Robert,

>> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd*
>> rather have an
>> 020... :)

> Give me a 6510 (Or a 6502) anyday. Assmebler's much cleaner for 'em... :)

Leave it! Or we'll have people saying they'd much rather have 4004s and then
folk saying that their Babbage machine is easier to code for and so on...

All the best,
--
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:10:10 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd* rather
have an
> 020... :)

Actually I'd prefer a 7MHz 68000 please because those 400MHz G3s are
pathetic; and they can hardly power anything.   This 68000 though can
achieve Pentium 200 performance on IBeM and Pentium III 700 on PC-Task
4.2; and it out strips any Apple Mac ever; even those G4s.... :)

G3s are VERY powerful, just that G4s are Powerfuller.... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:08:29 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:07:24 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> >> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd*
> >> rather have an
> >> 020... :)
>
> > Give me a 6510 (Or a 6502) anyday. Assmebler's much cleaner for 'em... :)
>
> Leave it! Or we'll have people saying they'd much rather have 4004s and then
> folk saying that their Babbage machine is easier to code for and so on...

or how they'd prefer a slab of rock, a hammer and a chisel ...

Kev, leaving it now ...


--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:09:44 -0000
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> >> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd*
> >> rather have an
> >> 020... :)
>
> > Give me a 6510 (Or a 6502) anyday. Assmebler's much cleaner
> for 'em... :)
>
> Leave it! Or we'll have people saying they'd much rather have
> 4004s and then
> folk saying that their Babbage machine is easier to code for
> and so on...

/me mumbles about his Abacus out-calculating the SGI machine that's in our
showroom, and wanders OT

--


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:10:49 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> >>   how much are the Internet phone rate in the UK???
> >

I use Cable & Wireless and pay slightly over 1p a minute off-peak and 3
times that peak (3p).

So 1 hour of time peak is 60*3 - 90p
and 1 hour of time off-peak is   60p    both give or take.000 amounts.

TTFN

Bifford the Youngest.




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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:12:23 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> >> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd*
> >> rather have an
> >> 020... :)
>
> > Give me a 6510 (Or a 6502) anyday. Assmebler's much cleaner for
'em... :)
>
> Leave it! Or we'll have people saying they'd much rather have 4004s
and then
> folk saying that their Babbage machine is easier to code for and so
on...

Awww, I was gonna say I was gonna use my Honeywell 516 and 316 and my
PDP-7 :).  But I could use that abacus of course; now that will get
about Pentium 166 performance..... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:15:27 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> OS3.5 was going so nicely over the past couple of months that I
thought
> nothing would go wrong. But now, for no apparent reason, my Amiga
hangs
> when quit Screenmode. I haven't installed anything new, so what could
> be the problem?

Hiya,

Are you running Dopus Magellan II by any chance???

Cause if so, before you change anything in WB`s screenmode you have to
turn the background off in Dopus (just hit the use button, you dont
have to save it)

Then change your sceenmode prefs then turn the background back on in
Dopus.

Voila.

Bifford the Youngest.

Starting to panic about his 8000 word dissertation to be written for 1
week 4 days time.......(100 words written so far)





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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:15:29 +0000
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Hi Samuel,

> Starting to panic about his 8000 word dissertation to be written for 1
> week 4 days time.......(100 words written so far)

Don't worry about it. Rich and I manage to write at least 10,000 words each
in the last week of the magazine's production... :)

All the best,
--
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:21:18 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> > Starting to panic about his 8000 word dissertation to be written
for 1
> > week 4 days time.......(100 words written so far)
>
> Don't worry about it. Rich and I manage to write at least 10,000
words each
> in the last week of the magazine's production... :)
>

Ah, but is it good words??  Or drivel?

Hmm. I wonder if its possible to figure out which parts of the mags are
written closest to the deadline.......:)

Biff.




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:21:45 +0000
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Hi Samuel,

> Ah, but is it good words??  Or drivel?

How dare you suggest such a thing?!

> Hmm. I wonder if its possible to figure out which parts of the mags are
> written closest to the deadline.......:)

It's not too difficult...

All the best,
--
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:27:18 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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> > But now, for no apparent reason, my Amiga hangs
> > when quit Screenmode. I haven't installed anything new, so what
could
> > be the problem?

> Are you running Dopus Magellan II by any chance???

Yup.

> Cause if so, before you change anything in WB`s screenmode you have to
> turn the background off in Dopus (just hit the use button, you dont
> have to save it)

But it worked fine before! Talk about artificial intelligence!

Paul Laycock



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:26:43 -0000
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> > > Starting to panic about his 8000 word dissertation to be written
> for 1
> > > week 4 days time.......(100 words written so far)
> >
> > Don't worry about it. Rich and I manage to write at least 10,000
> words each
> > in the last week of the magazine's production... :)
> >
>
> Ah, but is it good words??  Or drivel?
>
> Hmm. I wonder if its possible to figure out which parts of
> the mags are
> written closest to the deadline.......:)

That's easy. They're the ones written messily, with lots of crossings-outs
and corrections...

--


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:30:06 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Kevin,

> > I would hang fire for a while at least. FusionPPC still isn't quite
ready
> > (problems with a bug in WarpUp according to Joe Fenton), so there's
time to
> > see what will happen yet...
>
> Wait a minute, it's going to be using WOS?   So I have to install
that to
> use FusionPPC?  Why didn't they tell me this before?  ;-)

What is wrong with WarpOS? I find it much cleaner than all that dodgy
ELF stuff phase5 (rest in peace) decided to use.

But then again, at least Songplayer worked with PowerUP ;)

Paul Laycock



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:33:37 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> > Are you running Dopus Magellan II by any chance???
>
> Yup.
>

Thats the problem in a nutshell.

> > Cause if so, before you change anything in WB`s screenmode you have
to
> > turn the background off in Dopus (just hit the use button, you dont
> > have to save it)
>
> But it worked fine before! Talk about artificial intelligence!
>

Silly isnt it?  I still have problems with my music cd icons.  They
just wont play ball - see my screen grabs in this months readers
section. They stay as final writer icons for some reason. (and yes, i
do have the update installed)

Oh well.

Bifford the youngest.

P.S.

Thanks for putting mine and Ady`s screens on the CD this issue Ben.
Although, as mine was the only non-graphics card one it was kinda
overshadowed - but I still think it looks tons better than a lot of the
workbenches you`ve had on there before now. :)

And my documentation was the best there (ok, perhaps a slight overkill
but if your gonna do something, you might as well go the whole hog, eh?)

Only thing is, those screen grabs are now seriously out of date as Ive
scaled the icon bars icons down somewhat and played with MUI.  time to
re-send some new screengrabs me thinks.

P.P.S. Might have a "demo" style animation to send in soon - only 10
seconds long, but its taken a day and a half to render the 150 frame in
C4D. !!!!!!

Yawn.

Thats me done.

TTFN




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Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:15:26 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Tim Seifert said,

> I'm more of the opinion that software authors often have an over
> inflated opinion of their softwares worth and charge too much for some
> it, and make it damn near impossible to register it;

That's true of some, but by no means all, shareware authors. Many
software packages are easily registered online, such as Miami, THOR, the
Vapor range, AK products. Many more would be if more shareware authors
made use of the existing systems available for online credit card
transactions, such as RegNet.

However, none of this applies to commercial software bought through
normal retail channels, if it hasn't been pirated first.


Neil
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:47:48 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Sam,

> > > Are you running Dopus Magellan II by any chance???
> >
> > Yup.

> Thats the problem in a nutshell.

> > But it worked fine before! Talk about artificial intelligence!

> Silly isnt it?  I still have problems with my music cd icons

Well, Greg Perry; ya listening?

> Thanks for putting mine and Ady`s screens on the CD this issue Ben.
> Although, as mine was the only non-graphics card one it was kinda
> overshadowed - but I still think it looks tons better than a lot of
the
> workbenches you`ve had on there before now. :)

I'd send a few pics of my Workbench in, but I feel that, as you say,
they would be overshadowed. It looks all right though, even if I have
to but up with only 8 colours! ;)

> P.P.S. Might have a "demo" style animation to send in soon - only 10
> seconds long, but its taken a day and a half to render the 150 frame
in
> C4D. !!!!!!

I've been working on a massive (believe me when I say massive: roughly
fifty separate animations, comprised of about a hundred frames each!)
space battle anim in C4D for ages, but I never really have the time to
work on it properly.

Paul Laycock



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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:21 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi ppl,

Visit Blittersoft. I would post it here, but there is too much info!

http://www.blittersoft.com

Paul Laycock



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:52:20 +0000
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Hi Paul,

> Visit Blittersoft. I would post it here, but there is too much info!

> http://www.blittersoft.com

You could at least have put the precise URL:

http://www.blittersoft.com/cgi-bin/2/webc.cgi/~bsoft/BoXeR.html?sid=3D9XN=
HV600L08T1oF

All the best,
-- =

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:59:08 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> You could at least have put the precise URL:
>
> http://www.blittersoft.com/cgi-bin/2/webc.cgi/~bsoft/BoXeR.html?sid=9
XNHV600L08T1oF

Sorry! Half-fevered attempt to be the first to post. Don't worry, I
won't do it in future.

Paul Laycock



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From: "Chris Green" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:00:18 -0000
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Hi Nick

> Actually I'd prefer a 7MHz 68000 please because those 400MHz G3s are
> pathetic; and they can hardly power anything.

Pah! give me back my 4MHz Z80B any day - now that was a processor you could
depend on :)

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:42:10 +0000
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I watched as Tim Seifert hammered "[afb] Re: DF1: as DF0:" out on their
keyboard...

> _Replying to a message_:

> By:  Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
> To:  afb <[e-mail]>
> On:  30-Jan-00 23:06:32
> Re:  [afb] Re: DF1: as DF0:

> Hi Rick,

>> As to your installer script thing, simply load the script into a
>> decent text editor and tell it to "Find & Replace" any DF0: with DF1:
>> ...simple :)

> So what sort of pain writes an installer script that insists on
> installing from DFanything: instead of using the volume name of the
> disk?  Some of us do have more than one disk drive!  It's just as bad as
> various things insisting on unpacking to RAM:  Even better is to let the
> script run from the current working directory, that way people can
> install something from any location.

Yea gods! That was 8 days ago!  Anyway, the guy who originally wrote the
mail, was trying to make the emergency boot disk for OS3.5, but OS3.5's
instaler script is hard coded to DF0: with the assumption that everyone is
going to have a DF0: - but he didn't, it was broken I think...or summit.

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:49:40 +0000
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I watched as Nick Lamburn hammered "[afb] Re: A4000 High Density Floppy
Problems" out on their keyboard...

> Hi,

>> A good point, but do they still sell them? I've noticed that they have
>> disappeared from Power's web site and adverts. It would be a shame if
> they
>> have stopped doing them as I'd have thought demand for such a device
> would
>> be very strong right now.

> No, Power don't sell them anymore.  It seems the only viable option
> (but ultimately the best) is to get a Catweasel controller and PC
> floppy drive.  I think I'll get a Catweasel and HD floppy drive, and
> then connect my Amiga DD floppy drive as DF0:.  Catweasel configures
> its drives as PF0 or something; what is it.  Is the Catweasel
> compatible with PC-Task?  I know it is on ShapeShifter is; is Fusion??

Eyetech (I think) sell an extra adaptor (Kwalda or summit) that lets you use
the Catweasel to boot a HD disk....don't ask me how tho.

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:55:44 +0000
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I watched as Matthew O'Neill hammered "[afb] Re: This Hard Drive will self
destruct in 10...9...8...7..." out on their keyboard...

> On 09-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>>> I've just partitioned a new (well, old) drive with FFS, and when I saved
>>> the changes, it popped up an amber message:

>>> ***OS developer group warning, you are using a (something something
>>> version)***

> something something = beta

>> It's because you downloaded a beta version of FFS from Amiga Inc's
>> website and put it in the RDB of your drives.

> hmmmm, is there a newer one which wont threaten to eliminate my drive?

The one on OS3.5 should...but I haven't summoned the guts to try formatting
one of my precious partitions yet...

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:58:15 +0000
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I watched as Matthew O'Neill hammered "[afb] Re: YAM PPC patch is a fake!"
out on their keyboard...

> On 08-Feb-00, Rick Hodger wrote:

>> massive amount of speed...why try to make it work on a PPC other than for
>> a future G4-native version?

> Just answered your own question

Yeah....I wonder what on earth I was drinking...

Not that it really matters now anyway, seeing as it's being left up to
Met@box to produce the goods...no offense to them like, but they've been
planning their PPC card for ages now...

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:59:41 +0000
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I watched as Kevin Fairhurst hammered "[afb] Re: Phase5" out on their
keyboard...

> On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:16:59 +0100, Matthew O'Neill
> ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> Shit

> I'm sorry? Is this some sort of announcement as to what you think of them?

It's about the fact that phase5 filed for bankruptcy on 26-1-2000.  Hence
why Whiteknight etc haven't heard anything from them concerning the G4
cards.

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 20:01:10 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: Death of Phase5 - can DCE continue?
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I watched as Tudor Davies hammered "[afb] Death of Phase5 - can DCE
continue?" out on their keyboard...

> On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 05:08:59PM +0100, Tudor Davies wrote:

> Just read the news from ann timed at 14:26 - hadn't seen this yet.

> Bummer!

> Question is - did DCE get the right to manufacture cards outright or was
> it a license

I think it was just a license.

> ie - without Phase5 can they still make them?

Depends....apparently phase5 are looking for someone to continue producing
their products, hopefully DCE will get it.

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 20:07:08 +0000
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I watched as Mark Wilson hammered "[afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS" out on their
keyboard...

> On 09-Feb-00, Tim wrote this:

>>>> I have read on the latest Amiga Active what piracy is doing to
>>>> Vaporware
>
>> Better programming might actually help, rather than hideously buggy and
>> seriously outdated web browsers.

> I think as it stands Voyager 3 is one of the most advanced Web browsers on
> the Amiga (What didnt help in my opinion was Amozilla which all but killed
> off serious web browser development)

> Voyager 3 is stable, if you have a gfx card, Poor old AGA users seem to
> loose out though, but I'm sure that Olli and everyone at vaporware do
> their very best in the current market to make *good* products.

V3 looks awful on AGA, out of the box.  A bit of fiddling under the "Images"
section of the Prefs fixes that tho, mine are as follows:

Dithering          = Floyd-Steinberg
Color Quantization = Two Pass
DCT Processing     = Floating point

Takes a bit longer than normal to load most images, but they look far better
than they do when you first load it up...

>
>>> Tell me about it. The amount of times I, and Mark, have seen people
>>> come on IRC with pirate keyfiles is pretty horrifying tbh.
>
>> Making it possible to register software without putting a huge burden on
>> the customer also helps.  It's stupid when Amiga owners can't use Amiga
>> software to register their software over the net.  If I have to use a PC
>> to register Amiga software that has half the functionality of the PC
>> software, I may as well not bother.

> Well, You can buy online, you can use the Vaporware Reg tool, or online
> via Actives website, I really dont see what the problem is, can you Do
> better?, No I thought not, now go reg that software.

The problem is that a lot of people don't have credit cards (myself
included, and the reason why I still haven't registered Miami; noone in the
UK seems to sell it anymore) and a lot of people aren't very happy about
sending cash in the post.

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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:22:08 +0200
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Hello Kevin


>> Get FFS43.19_patch.lha from Aminet!
> Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
> Get WB3.5 which comes with FS45.1!

Of course, but First Aid is sometimes needed!

Regards
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proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:07:08 +0000
From: Mark Bond <[e-mail]>
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>
> Oh yeah, G3s are woefully underpowered. Let's face it *I'd* rather have an
> 020... :)
>

Hey nice evasion of the original point ;-)

and yes they are underpowered compared to G4's (I've got a 350Mhz G3 imac and a
400Mhz G4 Powermac on my desk at the mo and the speed difference is quite a bit
- by observation only you understand). Plus there was the lack of Scsi on the
Amijoes. There was also a complete lack of  ;-) which were missed in the hurry
to send the e-mail ;-).

Mark



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:05:07 +0000
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Hi Chris,

>> Actually I'd prefer a 7MHz 68000 please because those 400MHz G3s are
>> pathetic; and they can hardly power anything.

> Pah! give me back my 4MHz Z80B any day - now that was a processor you
> could depend on :)

Blimey, I said to leave this thread alone and we've had, what? Five? ten?
emails about it since. Stop it now!

All the best,
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:08:39 -0800
From: "Peter Bell" <[e-mail]>
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Hey

I am sometimes getting software failures on bootup on my amiga. I have
a 1d4 revision motherboard with 8mb of ram. There is a quantum fireball
harddisk connected by the4 new elbox ide 4way  buffered ide interface.
Sometimes i connect a 8x cdrom to the ide interface but most of the
time i leave it disconnected because the power supply i have isn't
powerful enough to support the harddisk and cdrom drive at the same
time. That isn't the problem though, its that when i boot up without
the cdrom I get the error message saying
'An atapi device has been detected at unit 3 but does not semm to be
fuctioning properly'
Sometimes when i boot up before that message comes up there is a
software failure, sometimes ther is an error when i click on the 'ok'
button on the message and sometimes the message doesn't appear at all
and the computer freezes. If you know the problem or how to sort it out
please reply

                         Thanks
                             Peter



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From: "Chris Green" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:12:16 -0000
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Hi Rick

> Eyetech (I think) sell an extra adaptor (Kwalda or summit) that
> lets you use
> the Catweasel to boot a HD disk....don't ask me how tho.

The Kylwalda lets you use a bog-standard PC High-density floppy drive as a
direct replacement for an actual Amiga-compatible floppy drive - but it only
works as a DD drive, so you will only be able to use disks as DD 880K ones
alas.

I really wish someone would some up with a Kylwalda-like interface that
gives us HD capability using PC HD floppy drives. I'm certain that enough
demand exists and the Power XL drive is proof that it can be done! Even
bringing that interface back into production would be a good move!

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:12:44 +0000
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Hi Chris,

> The Kylwalda lets you use a bog-standard PC High-density floppy drive as a
> direct replacement for an actual Amiga-compatible floppy drive - but it
> only works as a DD drive, so you will only be able to use disks as DD 880K
> ones alas.

> I really wish someone would some up with a Kylwalda-like interface that
> gives us HD capability using PC HD floppy drives. I'm certain that enough
> demand exists and the Power XL drive is proof that it can be done! Even
> bringing that interface back into production would be a good move!

If you read Simon's review of the Kylwalda, you'll see that it can be used
in conjunction with the Catweasel to give you a booting High Density Amiga
floppy drive.

All the best,
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:14:02 -0000
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> The one on OS3.5 should...but I haven't summoned the guts to
> try formatting
> one of my precious partitions yet...

You shouldn't have to. Just replace the "fastfilesystem" on the RDB from
within HD Toolbox.

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